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We’ve all been there. You look up and it’s December and you still haven’t finalized your holiday gifts for clients. You wonder what swag can you get made in time? Or... maybe we’ll make it a New Years' gift to buy some time! OK, maybe all of you are awesome and it was just me dropping the ball? Either way, keep reading to learn about some of the top client gift ideas mentioned in the Bureau Slack channels over the past couple of years.

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These fun gift ideas allow you to send each client something that will be special to them. So let's get started!

Tasty Treats

  • Patagonia Provisions | These delicious gift boxes not only taste great, they actually help the planet.

  • Harry & David's Favorites | A twist on an old favorite, these decorative tins are packed with nearly 7lbs of deliciousness.

  • Also, consider taking their family out for a fun night. It's a little more work, but you will have friends on the inside. Grab an AMC Theaters gift card and a gift certificate to a great restaurant in their town.

Gifts That Keep Giving

  • Cometeer | A unique coffee subscription where some of the best coffee in the world is delivered in recyclable single-use pods.

  • RunnerBox | Cool products and snacks for runners. A personal favorite of mine.

  • BarkBox | If they always show you what their four-legged friend is up to, this is a winner.

Leveling Up

  • MasterClass | Are your clients into cooking, photography, music, poker, or pretty much anything? A MasterClass subscription will help them learn from the best.

  • Audible | An Audible subscription gives all the audiobooks you can imagine. Plus podcasts and original programming too.

Taking a Breath

  • TaskRabbit | If your client is always super busy, give them some local support.

  • Headspace | And if you know them well enough, give the gift of relaxation and clarity.

I want all of these!!! If you've got any to add to the list please send them my way. And you already know this, but these are great gifts for friends too. I mean, we're friends... right?

Transcript:

Carl: Did you see the video of the dog and the turtle that were fighting?

Gene: No.

Carl: Yeah. This is what I do with my life when I should be protecting my job.

Gene: I don't spend any time on the internet.

Carl: What are you doing right now?

Gene: Oh, yeah, I'm on the internet. What's on the agenda for today's discussion, my friend?

Carl: Well, Gene, it's that time of year.

Gene: What time is that?

Carl: It is almost December. And this is when people realize what they forgot, which was to get client gifts. Now, granted, we can still get family gifts up to December 24th.

Gene: You can.

Carl: And I have. And they never go well, because it's so obvious. This year I feel really good. I know my kids don't listen to this [crosstalk 00:01:56]

Gene: Here's your half gallon of milk. Merry Christmas [crosstalk 00:01:58].

Carl: Exactly. You have two days to drink it.

Carl: I got my kids... There's a company up in Philly called Dietz snacks. D-E-I-T-Z. And so they had a bunch of 'Dietz Nuts' shirts.

Gene: Now that is a great branding opportunity.

Carl: They had-

Gene: That is awesome.

Carl: It was amazing. And you know what? They sell meats and cheeses, so it's funny and it's funny...

Gene: As well they should.

Carl: But they also have 'I love Dietz meats', right? It's all this kind of stuff, but I did get two great shirts. One is, 'how about Dietz Nuts?', right?

Gene: These nuts.

Carl: But then, 'I love Dietz Nuts', but the heart is upside-down. We'll leave that one to your imagination.

Carl: So, I got some early Christmas gifts, but when you suddenly realize you didn't get client Christmas gifts... And this is where a lot of people in the bureau are because they've been dealing with stuff.

Gene: Yeah.

Carl: I don't know, trying to slow down turnover, get new people on board, all this kind of stuff. But the clients are the ones who've kept every going. Right?

Gene: Right.

Carl: So, Gene, I went through two years... Okay, I had somebody else do it, but they went through two years worth of bureau conversations around gifts. And also, I thought about some of the best gifts that we received or gave. And today we're going to play a little game, Gene Crawford. We are going to play 'Gene guesses the best gifts that you can still actually get to somebody by Christmas'.

Gene: I like games.

Carl: And let's do this. Let's not say, "We'll just say, it's a New Year's gift that gives us till the 7th of January." Everybody sees through that. Don't do that.

Carl: Nobody wants a New Year's gift, what the hell? And call it a holiday gift. I'm going to say "Christmas gift" a lot. That was the way I raised, although I haven't really been back to say 'hey' to anybody in the church in quite a while. But I'm still doing the Christmas thing. So, you know what? It could be Hanukkah gift, it could be a Christmas gift, it could be any holiday gift around the world that you wanted to be.

Gene: Right, right.

Carl: Gene...

Gene: So with the exception of America's war on Christmas...

Carl: I thought that war ended?

Gene: Is that sort of a thing? You just do like a holiday gift? You just send it whenever in December? I mean, right?

Carl: Or are holiday gifts the same as holiday parties, where you try to have it as early as possible so you can go to other people's?

Gene: I think so.

Carl: The war on Christmas, look at us. You know, if the fat man was really magical, it wouldn't be much of a war. You know what I'm saying?

Gene: He'd take care of business.

Carl: He would. Because he, I mean, pretty much can drop coal, pop you on the head with that crap.

Gene: I love the idea of a Santa sleigh with a mini gun.

Carl: Just popping out coal.

Gene: All right, what's this game? Let's play this game.

Carl: Okay. So you have to guess what these gifts are. I have 10 of them that I've compiled, okay? Now you can get close, all right? And I will guide you in, because we've got to stretch this bitch out for 30 minutes.

Carl: So, Gene, what are one of the best gifts you can get a client last minute?

Gene: Last minute?

Carl: Well, okay, now.

Gene: Now?

Carl: By Friday, because that's when people are going to listen to this.

Gene: Chocolate-covered peanuts. Or pecans.

Carl: Wow.

Gene: How do you say it? Pecans or pecans?

Carl: I say ['cons' 00:06:07]. You know how some people say tomato or tomato?

Gene: I say [maters 00:06:12].

Carl: In the South we say 'mater'.

Gene: Yeah.

Carl: Maters, taters, cons.

Gene: I would go with that.

Carl: It doesn't work with pecans. No, Gene, chocolate-covered peanuts and pecans is not...

Gene: I only say that because my that's what my accountant got me.

Carl: Well... Okay. And did you like it?

Gene: My wife loves them.

Carl: Okay. Hey, you know what? You're hitting on a theme here with the family and significant others, so that's going to help out a little.

Gene: I've done this before.

Carl: But let's just say ...

Gene: No...

Carl: I know, I know. I'm even going to help you if you get close.

Gene: A calendar with your company's logo on it.

Carl: Oh my God. Is that something a client wants? These are supposed to be awesome gifts.

Gene: Oh, awesome gifts?

Carl: ... Not awful.

Gene: A PS5.

Carl: Yeah, okay, I got one of those. My wife found one for me. I'm so excited [crosstalk 00:07:08].

Gene: That would be a badass client. If you gave your clients a new PS5...

Carl: If you knew your clients. But let's also say this is a gift you can pull off by the end of the year, Gene.

Gene: Right.

Carl: My God. I'm going to have to give you 28 strikes.

Gene: A gift certificate to...

Carl: Okay, you're kind of getting in the zone here.

Gene: ... to something fun, or a family dinner somewhere like [crosstalk 00:07:34]-

Carl: Okay, family dinner is on the list [crosstalk 00:07:36].

Gene: ... like Olive Garden [crosstalk 00:07:37].

Carl: Awesome family dinner [crosstalk 00:07:38].

Gene: No? Not Olive Garden?

Carl: Olive Garden... No [crosstalk 00:07:44]...

Gene: It's a fantastic Christmas gift [crosstalk 00:07:47].

Carl: Actually, I'm not... I think there's a great Italian restaurant in every town, so let's just find that one.

Carl: But no, a great family dinner, a family night out and you got one! Ding, ding, ding! So it can be a movie card to AMC movies.

Gene: Right.

Carl: And also find a great restaurant in their town. It's so easy to find where the great restaurants are.

Gene: Yeah, and you do it all online.

Carl: And get them a gift certificate to take out the whole family.

Gene: Right.

Carl: Because that will pay dividends going forward, because then the family knows that you're awesome.

Gene: They better.

Carl: All right, there you go. You got one.

Gene: Do I go again?

Carl: You've got to keep going, Gene, we are eight minutes into this.

Gene: I have to do this for 15 minutes?

Carl: No, no, until we're done.

Gene: An iPad.

Carl: An iPad... Okay.

Gene: I don't know.

Carl: I mean, do they already have an iPad? See, these are the things you would know.

Gene: Who cares? So give it to their kid.

Carl: Okay. I'm not going to give you an ... on that one, okay? And if you want to send me an iPad, I'm totally cool with it.

Gene: I would go bottle of wine, but you never know who's an alcoholic.

Carl: No. And I don't know why you're not breaking eye contact with me right now. Oh, we're doing a podcast together, sorry. Totally my bad.

Carl: Bottle of wine is optional in one of these gifts.

Gene: Right. So you go Griswold Christmas and do 'Jelly of the Month Club'.

Carl: You could.

Gene: That would be my funny gift.

Carl: Okay. For those who are still listening, either you can't get to whatever the source of audio is...

Gene: They're totally listening.

Carl: Okay. So the bottle of wine is part [crosstalk 00:09:37]-

Gene: This is a good podcast [crosstalk 00:09:37].

Carl: Potentially part... It's one of the best.

Gene: I mean, of all time.

Carl: That I've ever done. Is part of it, one. And then you set a subscription 'Jelly of the Month'. It's not 'Jelly of the Month', okay?

Gene: I mean, it could be whatever.

Carl: But there are a couple of subscription services that are on this list [crosstalk 00:09:53].

Gene: Subscription chewing tobacco of the month [crosstalk 00:09:54].

Carl: Okay, South Carolina. I guess if you have the national mustache museum...

Gene: But the real gift is the story that they tell everyone that Carl got me a chewing tobacco of the month club gift.

Carl: You're not taking this seriously at all.

Gene: I'm sorry.

Carl: I'm trying to help people. You know what? Sign up for the newsletter and you can find out what these gifts are, because Gene is drunk at 10:30 in the morning.

Gene: They don't know what time we do these.

Carl: They do now. 10:25, Tuesday, November 30th.

Gene: I got the subscription [crosstalk 00:10:32]-

Carl: Captain's log, Gene's drunk again [crosstalk 00:10:33].

Gene: I've actually done that. I've given you a subscription and I've given other clients a subscription.

Carl: You gave me... I'm a client? You gave me a subscription to chewing tobacco?

Gene: No!

Carl: Okay, what'd you give me a subscription to?

Gene: You were getting ready for big ultra run or something. It was like a workout box or some shit, I don't remember.

Carl: Yeah. Okay.

Gene: Had stuff like that in it.

Carl: There you go. So a couple of the gift boxes...

Gene: Yeah.

Carl: ... If you know your clients, and these are subscription boxes, so you can do just one, you can do it three times, six times, whatever. Runner box.

Gene: Yeah.

Carl: Which is awesome.

Gene: Yeah.

Carl: My wife got me that for Christmas couple years ago and I never let it lapse, I just love it.

Gene: Those are fun.

Carl: Barkbox. If you know that your client loves pets [crosstalk 00:11:23].

Gene: Oh, yeah! [crosstalk 00:11:24].

Carl: Because it's hard for somebody who is a dog lover, or has cats, they have to deal with to not like a Barkbox.

Gene: Yeah. My dog gets a Barkbox.

Carl: Yeah, I've never seen one. I was making all that up. So is it cool?

Gene: It's pretty cool.

Carl: Yeah?

Gene: But you do have to know your client, because they're for different sized dogs, right? So,

Carl: Oh.

Gene: So, our dog is a smaller dog, so you don't want to get them the five pound chewing bone, or whatever.

Carl: Wouldn't that be kind of funny, though?

Gene: It's a little dog but they get a big [crosstalk 00:11:58]-

Carl: The little yip-yip dog gets the-

Gene: Big chew toy.

Carl: Yeah, the Saint Bernard chew toy.

Gene: Yeah.

Carl: Okay, so there you go. So you've got a couple of them here, that was awesome.

Gene: Okay.

Carl: Now the one with the wine would be a part of something bigger. And so-

Gene: Right. So I've done... I didn't do it for all my clients but a couple of the big ticket ones. You go to your local, I want to say the word 'deli', but it's more like a specialty store that sells wine and all the other stuff, and you get them to make a basket.

Carl: Exactly. And so there's a great one called Harry & David's...

Gene: Oh, that's great.

Carl: ... that a lot of people in the community have talked about. 'Harry & David's favorites', I think it's called?

Gene: Okay.

Carl: And they do chocolate-covered peanuts.

Gene: I said that.

Carl: No, they don't. Popcorn. They do popcorn. You were so close.

Gene: Chocolate-covered popcorn [crosstalk 00:12:52]?

Carl: They could do fresh pears [crosstalk 00:12:54]. They could do whatever.

Gene: Right.

Carl: But they do a box that you put together.

Gene: Right.

Carl: It can be meats and cheeses, but you get to help customize it. And for a few bucks more you can throw a bottle of wine in there.

Gene: Right.

Carl: But that's another one that you can get in to now, because these bigger companies that still make super cool, right? And get out there.

Gene: What happened?

Carl: What do you mean, "What happened?" What happened? What happened?

Gene: I don't know. I'll edit it out.

Carl: What are you talking about?

Gene: It died on me.

Carl: It died on you?

Gene: Yeah. You just turned in to a spinny.

Carl: Oh my goodness, no. Where was I? What were we talking about?

Gene: Start over at the putting a bottle of wine in the basket for...

Carl: For Harry & David's?

Gene: Yeah, Harry & David's.

Carl: Okay. Or you can put a bottle of wine in the basket for a few bucks more.

Carl: So I like how you went, "Yeah, that'll be good." Nobody will know that the whole thing just crapped out because Carl delivered the wine.

Gene: Carl's a pro.

Carl: Which is what they used to say in high school. "Oh, Carl, bring the wine." It'll be fine.

Gene: In high school.

Carl: So, okay. It wasn't wine. It was probably like peppermint schnapps or some god-awful, horrible thing that nobody would know was missing. Okay.

Gene: Little [OE 00:14:07].

Carl: Okay. Now, there's one other one that's in this subscription category. And it's something that almost every client would enjoy. They'll probably use this every day.

Gene: A membership to the Bureau of Digital.

Carl: Yes! That would be amazing. But no.

Gene: You like how I did that?

Carl: Unless you want clients in there?

Gene: Yeah, I know [crosstalk 00:14:36].

Carl: But give us subscription to your competitor [crosstalk 00:14:39]. And tell them, "Hey, come over here." And then let me know who they are, and I'll put them in with the worst people.

Gene: Yeah. Well we run a black hat podcast that just gives the opposite advice.

Carl: The opposite advice. Okay. Gene, what might they enjoy every day?

Gene: Oh! Coffee.

Carl: Gene, how did you know?

Gene: That is genius.

Carl: For those of you listening, Carl took a very slow sip of coffee. Now there is-

Gene: Well, that's not true you drink coffee.

Carl: Well, it's true. Could be the wine that I got in the gift basket.

Gene: I wasn't doing the alcohol at 10:30.

Carl: Well, it's 10:31 now, so, you know. I like to say, "It's 10:31 somewhere."

Gene: Somewhere.

Carl: Cometeer. This company sends freeze-dried, I guess it would actually be in... What do you call that kind of ice? The kind that ...

Gene: Dry ice.

Carl: Dry ice. Thank you.

Gene: Right.

Carl: It makes no sense, that's why I can't remember it. But they send it super frozen in these little pods. You basically pull it back. It's high-end Fairtrade coffee, you put your little cube of ice coffee in there, then you pour hot water on it.

Carl: Or you can make ice coffee. You can make lattes, whatever you want. But it's super high-end. Now the confusing thing to me is it kind of looks like K-Cups for a Keurig, but you do not want to put that in your Keurig.

Gene: Yeah, no.

Carl: I'm pretty sure it wouldn't even fit.

Gene: I'd break your Keurig for sure.

Carl: But Cometeer is flash frozen.

Gene: That's cool.

Carl: The pods are recyclable. If your city still recycles, ours gave up on it.

Gene: Yeah, ours did too.

Carl: Yeah. They were like, "You know what, honestly, pandemic; we're just going to let everybody know we weren't recycling that shit. You can just put trash in the one with the yellow top. It's fine."

Gene: Yeah, you get two trashcans now.

Carl: Exactly, right? They try to make it a big benefit to us.

Carl: So, Cometeer. All right. Now we are getting... Let me see here. There's one other one that's in the food category. I'm just going to go ahead and give you this one.

Gene: Yeah, we got wine, and snacks, and coffee. I don't know.

Carl: Yeah. So Patagonia Provisions.

Gene: Huh?

Carl: People love Patagonia.

Gene: Yeah.

Carl: They don't know that they're doing food gift boxes.

Gene: That's cool.

Carl: So, there you go. And it's all nutritious foods, it's all completely sustainable.

Gene: Yeah.

Carl: So if you know you've got clients that are super green...

Gene: Right? It's a good one.

Carl: Yeah, it's a great one.

Carl: All right. Now we're going to get in to helping people with their day, or their life or whatever. There're are a few in here that are about self-care, so I'm doing all can, Gene. We didn't think this game through. At home I can hear you shouting.

Gene: Yeah. I'm drawing a blank outside of the subscription box thing, because I've seen some self-care type based things. I mean, yeah, I'm drawing blank here.

Carl: Gene, what is one of your favorite things to do? And don't be naughty, I saw that look coming. Like what's something that you just really enjoy outside of work?

Gene: I mean, I like exercising, I like why watching movies. I mean, I don't know where you're going.

Carl: Okay. None of that helps.

Gene: Yeah.

Carl: None of that helps. Okay. So, you were so close though that I'm just going to say it.

Gene: Yeah. Do it.

Carl: A MasterClass subscription. So give somebody a year in MasterClass, because then... I took the MasterClass from Kasparov to get better at playing chess, and it was so cool, right?

Carl: I watched the RuPaul one on understanding your own personal identity.

Gene: Yeah.

Carl: There's some great things in there. There are other ones in this list that kind of help you with just education, but it's more about your own personal stuff. It gets you out of thinking about business all the time, or the web or whatever.

Gene: That's cool. That's very cool.

Carl: MasterClass subscription. That's pretty good one.

Carl: Everybody customizes it to themselves, they get so much stuff going on.

Carl: In that vain, are you wanting to guess, or do you want me to give another one?

Gene: Well, give me something. I want to try to do my job here.

Carl: Okay. Now imagine that there's no video. What's something else you could give somebody that lets them opt into what they want. It's another annual subscription, but you're going to listen...

Gene: Either Spotify or Sirius XM.

Carl: No.

Gene: Ah.

Carl: Audible.

Gene: Audible! Okay.

Carl: Audible's another one, right? So if you want to listen to books, they've got a lot of other type stuff, and their books are amazing.

Gene: Yeah, Audible's awesome.

Carl: So good. And it's another great subscription service that people can use on the weekends. If people are in a hybrid work situation or going into an office, they can get back there because a lot of the podcasts have just gone way downhill. I don't know if you've listened to any, but they're not what they used to be.

Gene: And the way it works is you get a download a month and it builds every month. So if you don't use it once a month or whatever you can [inaudible 00:20:14].

Carl: It's not a use-it-or-lose-it at all. And I think you can send a book, but I think sending it for the year is just nicer. Because here's the other thing; people send coffee mugs or whatever, I mean, some of them are really awesome. I have a couple of agency coffee mugs that I keep because they're just great. And I see those shops names, right?

Gene: Right.

Carl: But I think when you give somebody something that's different and unique, you still remember who it's from.

Gene: Right.

Carl: Every time.

Gene: I love the subscription ideas. The Audible's cool.

Carl: Yeah. Audible's a great one. And again, the boxes are great too. And MasterClass, I think that's one that I might send out to some people.

Gene: That's a cool one.

Carl: Yeah. Okay, let's say you're just stressed out all the time, you don't have any good friends that you can talk to. At the most somebody who will just make you feel better about yourself because they're kind of a loser.

Carl: No, I'm good. I feel pretty good about myself right now. But no, if somebody wants another level of self-help... You want to do Charades?

Gene: Mm-mm (negative)

Carl: No? Good, because that wouldn't work.

Gene: Yeah.

Carl: That's not going to work. All right, Gene, what do people say they need to get? Or they need to clear? "I need to clear some..."

Gene: Clear your mind, yeah.

Carl: Or...?

Gene: Conscience?

Carl: Or a space in my...

Gene: Head? I don't know where you're going with it.

Carl: Take it, flip it.

Gene: What is this? Eight minutes with a Catholic priest, where you can just talk about your sins? I think that's free. You can get that for free.

Carl: You get that for free, yeah.

Gene: I don't know, man.

Carl: And if you can't do it, you can always send somebody a subscription to Headspace. If you know that they're kind of into that, or they've talked about it or something. I wouldn't send them [crosstalk 00:22:19]...

Gene: Yeah, you've got to be careful with that one [crosstalk 00:22:21].

Carl: ... a subscription to therapy. That might not be great.

Gene: Like, "What are you trying to say? What's wrong with me?"

Carl: Exactly. But to Headspace, I think, can be super cool.

Gene: Yeah, because it's meditation.

Carl: Yeah. If you know somebody who you know... I mean, that's the thing, these are gifts. You don't have to give the same one to every client.

Gene: Right.

Carl: You can look at this list of nine and say, "Okay, well that guy's got a dog. I know that guy's running all the time. She loves wine." I don't know why female owner ended up with wine.

Carl: Yeah. Or you know what, let's just say that they were just two courses away from being a nuclear physicist. So let's give a MasterClass. I don't even know if that's on there.

Gene: I don't think so.

Carl: Nuclear physicist school.

Gene: Yeah.

Carl: You could send them to... No, don't do that. Okay.

Gene: Submarine piloting, that would be a great class.

Carl: You're doing really well here, Gene. We have one left, and this one, I think, is super cool for somebody who is just so busy. If you've got somebody who just can't seem to get stuff done, this is something you can give. And there's actually two flavors of it. One is more or when you need help in your personal life, the other is more when you need help in your work life.

Carl: So, if you wanted to give somebody a service... That sounded naughty, I apologize.

Gene: That's not what we're...

Carl: No, it didn't sound naughty at all. I took it there and I still apologize, though.

Gene: That's okay.

Gene: I don't know the name of the service, but it'd be like a TaskRabbit or some kind of...

Carl: You do know the name of the service, it's TaskRabbit.

Gene: Awesome, yeah.

Carl: See, you're like me. The only thing you need to do to get the right answer is precurse it by saying, "This is wrong, but..." So, as long as you say that you know you're not right, then you can be wrong and right at the same time.

Gene: Yeah.

Carl: There you go. Or TaskRabbit, or a virtual assistant?

Gene: Virtual assistant.

Carl: You can actually give people virtual assistants. Now, TaskRabbit's cool, because you can have somebody go pick up your dry cleaning. R.

Gene: Right.

Carl: Or something like that. Or book travel, or call a chef to see if they meet your dietary restrictions, whatever it might be. So there you go. So, Gene, we did it. That was it.

Gene: Ah! I feel like I just won Christmas.

Carl: I think you did. Unfortunately, Christmas is dead.

Gene: Oh.

Carl: So you basically won a dead Christmas, and all you have to do is dig a big hole, which is fine.

Gene: Okay.

Carl: You might find something when you dig in the hole.

Gene: You might.

Carl: That's why I sent you a shovel. That's your Christmas gift.

Gene: A [inaudible 00:25:10] shovel.

Carl: What is the worst Christmas gift that a client or somebody that you worked with ever sent you?

Gene: Chocolate-covered pecans.

Carl: Was it really?

Gene: No. Oh, man. Yeah, that's probably up there.

Carl: Seriously. Come on. You know you got something.

Gene: I'm going to say the beer koozie with their company's logo on it.

Carl: Okay, that's pretty bad.

Gene: Was pretty bad. And I know they went out of their way to make it, but, dude, that's so low-brow.

Carl: I once got a-

Gene: I know I'm being judgey. If you've given your client a beer koozie...

Carl: I know. But the thing is, it's so easy to give something a little nicer. And if they're giving you tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands, millions of dollars a year, give them a couple hundred bucks. I mean, come on.

Gene: Think about them.

Carl: I once got a really cheap branded ballpoint pen and notepad that you would not find at the worst Holiday Inn that had been condemned for 10 years. And I just remember, because I clicked on it, and you could see the ink was already starting to just smear.

Gene: Yeah.

Carl: And I just remember going, "Would've been better to just not send anything."

Gene: Yeah.

Carl: But what about the best? What about the best Christmas gift you think you ever got? Holiday gift?

Gene: I don't know. I don't know if that I've ever gotten a really, really good... I'm in this... Always worked in the service industry, man. I'm always on the other side of that.

Carl: You never had anybody send you anything nice? Come on, for [Converge 00:27:03]. I know people sent you nice stuff for Converge.

Gene: We got a pretty nice... That's where I got the basket idea. We got a pretty nice one. It was big, and it had couple of bottles of wine in it and a bunch of stuff. So, I mean, that was pretty cool.

Carl: Yeah. That's pretty great.

Gene: Yeah, I mean, we ate that shit right away. It was a bunch of dudes. We were like, "We're doing in this for lunch."

Carl: Yeah. Here we go, we're going in.

Gene: Yeah.

Carl: I have to say that Mailchimp always... Back when we were friends, they used to send me... Back when I was on the list of people they wanted to keep close, they would send me the most amazing holiday gift.

Gene: Oh yeah?

Carl: Once it was this just wonderful blanket, but it was it was woven. I mean, everything about it was perfect.

Gene: That's cool.

Carl: The other one I'm going to say... Greg Hoy, who's one of the founders of the Bureau, one year... He actually makes his own bacon.

Gene: Ah, that would be... yeah.

Carl: Hoy's bacon. So, one year I got some meats from him. He sent those and it was amazing. Also, I want to say this was from Matchstick Legal where Gabe is, but they sent me some flash frozen steaks one year.

Gene: That's cool.

Carl: Which was obviously from some badass steak place, and I'm just not that guy who remembered.

Gene: That's a cool gift.

Carl: Yeah.

Gene: Nothing says 'I love you' like meat.

Carl: Especially from Dietz.

Gene: Dietz meats.

Carl: Dietz meats. Yeah? How about Dietz meats? I really want to be their spokesperson, if there's any way that could ever happen.

Gene: I just want the shirt.

Carl: Well, Gene, it's too late for that.

Gene: I know.

Carl: I already left and didn't get you one.

Gene: It's all right.

Carl: Gene, are you sending anything to anybody this year? Hugs and kisses? Well wishes?

Gene: No, I don't think we are, none of our web design company clients. We're doing some stuff for the gym clients, the ones that have been there for more than a year, they're going to get something.

Carl: That's cool.

Gene: Yeah, it's just been a tight year.

Carl: Yeah. I think a lot of people have been through that. You know, the other thing, and it's not on this list but a lot of people do it, is donating in their client's name. See, and I think those things are great if they truly represent the company's core values or you understand the core values of your client.

Gene: Right.

Carl: And that's one thing I just want to say about the list, is it was definitely put together more in a traditional gift concept. Because I think people who are doing that, that kind of stuff's cool, too.

Gene: It is cool, yeah. Just make sure it's not The Human Fund, you know what I mean?

Carl: I don't know what you mean.

Gene: 'Seinfeld' reference.

Carl: Oh, damn it! You can edit that out? Hold on, I'm going to do it again.

Carl: 'Seinfeld'!

Gene: Yeah.

Carl: Good one, Gene.

Gene: Make sure it's a real... it exists.

Carl: The Human Fund.

Gene: Yeah.

Carl: I was worried that it was definitely something else.

Gene: Well, it could be [crosstalk 00:30:17].

Carl: I'm sure we'll find out [crosstalk 00:30:19].

Carl: So, before we go, I just want to say thanks again. We have continued to get emails in on the nGen Works story, we're starting to get a few in on the Converge story, which we had play last week. You know what, next week let's read those. Let's get back to some of those and read some of the... what do you call them? Listeners?

Gene: Yeah.

Carl: Fans?

Gene: We got two or three.

Carl: Those people? We'll read some of them people's emails.

Gene: Yeah.

Carl: Let you know what's going on.

Gene: Emails.

Carl: All right, Gene Crawford.

Gene: Merry Christmas.

Carl: Until we meet again.


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